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slowridehawaii
11-01-2015, 06:04 PM
Aloha Toyota Van Tech Friends,
I am new here and hope this is how it goes!
I need your help, yesterday my beautiful toyota van year 86 broke down. (2WD vanwagon, manuel)

Most likely the timing chain is ruptured, my workshop did say it was a little bit loose already.
That means I have to find a new timing set asap and honestly I have no clue how do handle that.
I have heard you won't find timing sets from toyota anymore, is that right?!

I have found some other brandsunder that link https://www.rockauto.com/ The brands are
ENGINETECH TS4057
DNJ ENGINE COMPONENTS TK937
ULTRA-POWER 94057S
SEALED POWER KT1022S
TM ENGINE COMPONENTS 05391900
CLOYES 94057S
MAHLE / CLEVITE 92614

Do you have any experiences with one of the brands? Any recommendations?!
Or nos?! I need my van back on the road, please help me!
Thank you for your time!!!
Mela

AD2101
11-02-2015, 01:02 AM
Here (http://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/showthread.php?2041-Blew-the-rear-main-oil-seal!-Engine-Overhaul&p=12491&viewfull=1#post12491), here (http://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/entry.php?52-4yec-Engine-Rebuild-part-11), and here (http://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/showthread.php?675-Timing-Chain&highlight=Timing+gear) are good places to start. The long and the short of it is that there appears to be interference issues with the aftermarket timing sets. You could spring for OEM Toyota parts (more expensive) or take your chances on a cheap timing set and take the very likely odds that you'll have to take the gears to a machinist to have them properly worked. The aforementioned links should get you going in the right direction but plenty more information is available with a quick search of the forums. FWIW, the ULTRA-POWER set at Rock Auto should probably be avoided.

beetleswamp
11-02-2015, 01:48 AM
Since it's the timing gear that seems to be giving people the most problems, I'm wondering if it would work to buy just an OEM timing gear and then use the A/M stuff from one of the kits. That way it only tacks on $40 to the kit price instead of going the whole $400.

Burntboot
11-02-2015, 07:54 AM
First off I would want a second opinion.
Timing chains wear, gears wear, chains get sloppy, it will rattle and scrape for a LONG time before anything bad happens.
Generally speaking they don't just "let go", not saying its impossible but I would want to verify before taking the plunge.

As far as replacing the chain and gears - I chose to go OEM, simply because I knew there would be no guess work involved.
Everything fits perfect, every time.

Your going in DEEP and will be there for awhile, do you have time/space/money to deal with issues if/as they crop up?
Repair shops rarely have time for mucking about to make things work and if they do, you WILL pay for that time spent.
If you have to pay a machinist to modify the "cheap" parts or the repair shop for the down/wasted time, just how much are you saving?

Note - See Tim's engine rebuild blog for details on A/M timing sets