rear axle seal.. leaking gear oil

[firstclass]

Yesterday I added some gear oil to my differential (2wd 1984) which has been leaking from the pinion oil seal. I'll be replacing that seal as soon as it comes in.
In the mean time, I needed to drive the van probably 20 miles or so, and I noticed this morning that my left rear wheel is leaking a lot of oil at the axle. Probably more noticeable because of the oil top-off.
Do I need to replace both my axle oil seal and the retaining gasket? Anyone have experience with this job?
Should I go ahead and buy/install new wheel bearings?
Thanks for the insights

[Burntboot]

I'd want to put it up on stands (well secured) and run it in gear, using a stethoscope (or long screwdriver against your ear bone), listen to the pinion and wheel bearings.
Then I would pull the rear drums and see how bad things are inside but its entirely possible you will also need new shoes due to fluid contamination.
Given the amount of work thats involved in replacing the rear axle seals, I would be inclined to go the extra mile and replace the wheel bearings while your in there.
This assumes that the Pinion bearings are quiet, if they are loud everything changes.

Make sure you mark the rear driveshaft flange to pinion flange before dissembling.
You'll need a slide hammer to get the rear axles out, you can usually rent them.
Do a search and you'll find lots of info and how-to's
BB

[coronan]

I have replaced my rear axel seal 2 if not 3 times. But it continues to make mess.
3614

I use name brand parts. Grease the lips and install the axel gently.
I also use sleeve lock to keep the bearing in place. Bearing is new.

It is not brake fluid.


Any advice????

[AR74]

I know you've probably already checked this but I'm gonna throw this out there . Have you checked the axle breather to make sure it's not stopped up ? If it's stopped up the pressure builds inside the axle and leaks out the seals .

[AD2101]

Have you checked the differential vent? If that's not able to vent properly there can be a build up of pressure, causing seals to break at different parts of the axle. For me the clogged vent caused the pinion seal to bust on my van, but on my 4Runner this same issue caused the driver side of the axle to weep diff fluid just like on your van. Replaced the seals, thoroughly cleaned out the differential vent, and no more issues!

This (http://www.toyotavantech.com/forum/showthread.php?885-Two-questions-for-the-pros&highlight=Differential+leaking) thread helped me out btw, good luck!

[coronan]

Thanks,

My breather is good. When I rebuilt the diff I took the opportunity to remove the old breather and plumb my own sintered brass fitting up against the floorboard for water crossings.

[originalkwyjibo]

Did you inspect the axle to see if there is a groove worn into it where the seal rides?

[kenneth]

Looking for thoughts and experiences others may have had with rear axel seals seeping oil. The shop where I get my van serviced says I have this issue and the danger is that this oil will eventually seep on to the brakes. I've heard these vans are notorious for this and it is not that big of a deal or a worry as far as it reaching the brakes. Anybody out there have experience or advice? Thanks in advance!

87 4WD Standard Transmission

[Ace MM]

Eventually you'll need to add gear oil, whether it reaches the brakes or not.
If they're the same type of axles as trucks, then its usually a couple hour job, for a $5 seal.
Do BOTH sides! trust me

[AD2101]

I had this problem with my 87 4runner, this (http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/rear_axle/oil_seal/) site helped me get it back on the road. The part numbers are likely different but otherwise I don't see why the job wouldn't be the same on one of our vans. Genuine Toyota seals are best but if they are too expensive or NLA, then a set of Timkens will work fine.

[kenneth]

Thanks you!