Brake pads

[JDM VANMAN]

So I had the brake pads in my 89 Townace replace with some Raybesto pads, it's been less then 5000 miles and they already sound squeaky and very dusty. More like Raydusto!!! These were the premium pads too, has anyone had any experience with these pads?
Thank you

[timsrv]

If the shop didn't use shims and/or fittings, this can be a problem. Even if they did everything right, sometimes new brakes will carry-on like this until they break-in. Brake dust will also be the heaviest during break-in. Drive it through a couple tanks full of gas and re-evaluate. If it's still squeaking then I'd inspect their work. Personally I don't use aftermarket brake pads. I only use Toyota pads & shims, but even then sometimes they'll squeal during the first couple hundred miles (during break-in). Tim

[JDM VANMAN]

Thank you Tim for the quick reply, I think they said they would reuse the shims and hardware if they were in good condition after inspection but I'm gonna have to ask them again. I was gonna use OEM pads for it but at the time wasn't able to crosses reference the part number at the time so I contacted a parts importer and that's what I got. I've done some research and it looks like the 89 U.S. van pads will fit. But the shims???? I did try to order those for my 87' 4x4 and they come up as NLA. Are you using a aftermarket shim kit? Thx

[timsrv]

I'm still using Toyota pads & shims, but I have my own parts inventory. I run a parts & service business & those tendencies spill over onto my Toyota Van hoarding. Any parts that I know will be routinely needed (like brake pads, shims, calipers, etc) I have multiples on hand. Most of this I've had for over 10 years, so I'm not as affected by NLA parts. Of course it's just a matter of time before I feel the same crunch everybody else does. Tim

[JDM VANMAN]

Man those Raysqueako brake pads are really bothering me, Tim would you happen to know the cross reference part number for the OEM brake pads that'll fit the TownAce SuperExtra 8 passenger people mover.... Oops sorry got carried away!! 3YEU YR21

I went to Canada to pick up those pads from a parts importer but there were no part numbers on the box so I took it to Oriellys but they don't carry Raybesto brand anymore.

Or if anyone one has that information it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

[timsrv]

Sorry, I have no way to look things up from non US markets. I can sometimes cross reference part numbers, but I need a part number to do that. When you own something weird you need to have your own parts books/catalogs. Every time you figure out another part number write it down and record where you got it. I would contact people that have been helpful in the past and ask them where to get parts lists/catalogs. Perhaps you could find a forum for these in a country where they were sold. Those guys would likely be your best resource (assuming you speak their language). Tim

[JDM VANMAN]

Thank you for the quick reply, this is the Part number- 04465-28010.

I was hoping to find it here so I didn't have to make that long distance call. Thx

[timsrv]

Looks like that part number was superseded by part #04465-28290. This part number shows up as still available through Toyota, but you won't know for sure (if it's available) until you're holding in your hand. I've noticed that Toyota likes to play games with brake pad part numbers. There are many pads that are interchangeable, but Toyota has many different part numbers. I believe they do this to make it harder for aftermarket companies to compete. When rigs get older and demand goes down, they usually switch over to a single part number (thus the reason for these parts to be superseded by other numbers). Tim

[JDM VANMAN]

I went and looked again at the production date to make sure I had my numbers right and looks like I was looking at the wrong year. Booooo!!! I was wrong


Here's what I've come up with-
Japan model


04465 PAD KIT, DISC BRAKE, FRONT
04465-27010 (10/1989 - 12/1991) 1 $75.59
04465-28020 (08/1988 - 09/1989) 1 $71.79
04945 SHIM KIT, ANTI SQUEAL, FRONT
04945-28120 1 $30.64
04947 FITTING KIT, DISC BRAKE, FRONT
04947-14020 (10/1989 - 12/1991) 1 $30.88
04947-28040 (08/1988 - 09/1989) 1 $52.35


cross-reference-

Japan 08/1988-12/1991 TOYOTA MASTERACE, TOWNACE KR2*,YR2*,3*,CR2*,3* 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
General 08/1988-12/1989 TOYOTA MODEL-F YR2*,31,CR21 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
N. America 08/1983-07/1988 TOYOTA VAN YR2*,3* 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
Model Dates: Matching Models: Model Options: Links to diagrams:
08/1985-07/1988 YR22LG-MDEA DLX, USA, WG, 4YEC, MTM, 5F 47-05
08/1986-07/1988 YR22LG-MDEK DLX, CND, WG, 4YEC, MTM, 5F 47-05
08/1987-07/1988 YR22LG-MQEA LE, USA, WG, 4YEC, MTM, 5F 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR22LG-PDEA DLX, USA, WG, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC 47-05
08/1986-07/1988 YR22LG-PDEK DLX, CND, WG, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR22LG-PQEA LE, USA, WG, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR22LG-PQEK LE, CND, WG, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR29LV-MRBEA STD, USA, VAN, 4YEC, MTM, 5F, SP 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR29LV-MRBEK STD, CND, VAN, 4YEC, MTM, 5F, SP 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR29LV-MREA STD, USA, VAN, 4YEC, MTM, 5F, SG 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR29LV-PRBEA STD, USA, VAN, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC, SP 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR29LV-PRBEK STD, CND, VAN, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC, SP 47-05
08/1985-07/1988 YR29LV-PREA STD, USA, VAN, 4YEC, ATM, 4FC, SG 47-05
N. America 08/1988-12/1989 TOYOTA VAN YR2*,3* 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER

looks like I'm in luck :clap:

[thevanburenbys]

Thank you Tim for the quick reply, I think they said they would reuse the shims and hardware if they were in good condition after inspection but I'm gonna have to ask them again. I was gonna use OEM pads for it but at the time wasn't able to crosses reference the part number at the time so I contacted a parts importer and that's what I got. I've done some research and it looks like the 89 U.S. van pads will fit. But the shims???? I did try to order those for my 87' 4x4 and they come up as NLA. Are you using a aftermarket shim kit? Thx

I'm getting a nice healthy rattle from my brakes on my '87 4x4 LE. On closer inspection it appears there are no shims on the brakes to prevent that rattle.

Any chance someone here has been able to find OEM shims/brake kit or can recommend aftermarket parts that will help?

[timsrv]

I'm partial to OE Toyota pads, but I'm okay with aftermarket calipers, shims, and fittings. Looks like you can still get these from Rockauto.com: http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/toyota,1987,van,2.2l+l4,1279784,brake+&+wheel+hub,brake+pad+shim+kit,1740. You can also get the "fully loaded" calipers: http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/toyota,1987,van,2.2l+l4,1279784,brake+&+wheel+hub,caliper,1704 then just swap out the AM pads with Toyota pads.

Anymore, it seems as though I can only get through 2 sets of pads before one or the other caliper starts dragging and/or needs to be replaced. So if you don't know the last time your calipers were replaced, and/or you're getting irregular wear, it might be time to replace everything up there. Tim

[Rudy]

I tried to order OEM pads 04491-28060 from Toyota yesterday and they say NLA!!! This is for an 85. Bummer.


04491-28060




04491-28060

[JDM VANMAN]

I tried to order OEM pads 04491-28060 (tel:04491-28060) from Toyota yesterday and they say NLA!!! This is for an 85. Bummer.


04491-28060 (tel:04491-28060)




04491-28060 (tel:04491-28060)




Maybe try here-

https://www.toyotapartsdeal.com/oem/toyota~pad~kit~disc~brake~front~04491-28060.html

By the way I was looking for pads for my Townace.

JDM

[gojamsgo]

I've read through this thread. All the part numbers for cross referencing confused me. My question is, can I put pads, calipers,and rotors from a local auto parts store/rock auto/dealer on my 87 JDM 4WD master ace? Thanks

[JDM VANMAN]

I've read through this thread. All the part numbers for cross referencing confused me. My question is, can I put pads, calipers,and rotors from a local auto parts store/rock auto/dealer on my 87 JDM 4WD master ace? Thanks

My Townace is a 2WD Petrol 3YEU engine and not 4WD Diesel 2C/2CT like most of the members have. So the part numbers are pertaining to a 2WD van.

JDM

[gojamsgo]

My Townace is a 2WD Petrol 3YEU engine and not 4WD Diesel 2C/2CT like most of the members have. So the part numbers are pertaining to a 2WD van.

JDM

Thanks. I misread your "vans" under your name. Do you think 4WD USDM pads will work on my 4WD JDM Master ace?

[JDM VANMAN]

Have you tried cross referencing the part numbers to see if they are compatible?

JDM

[gojamsgo]

Have you tried cross referencing the part numbers to see if they are compatible?

JDM

No. Asked here on the forum first.

[JDM VANMAN]

Looks like OEM pads are NLA for both 2WD and 4WD vans but if you click on the link Tim provided in posting number 11, there’s some closeout 4WD drive pads for under $4.00 and that might be an inexpensive way to experiment if they’re compatible.

I would assume that 4WD pads would work but I haven’t done any investigation or confirmation, if you happen to find out please post your results.:thmbup:

JDM

[JDM VANMAN]

I looked up the OEM part number 04491-28080 (tel:04491-28080) and this part works for both YR30 and CR30 chassis according to the cross referencing, and that was the same the same scenario for when I looked up the pads for my 2WD van when I was looking for pads.

JDM

[gojamsgo]

I looked up the OEM part number 04491-28080 (tel:04491-28080) and this part works for both YR30 and CR30 chassis according to the cross referencing, and that was the same the same scenario for when I looked up the pads for my 2WD van when I was looking for pads.

JDM

Thank you for the help, I checked rockauto, lots of closeout pads. I'll go that route and report back if they fit or not. 😀